Begins? The war with Iran started on October 6th 2023. Trump warned them just last week what would happen if they don’t stop developing the nukes.
Anony Mous
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WAR begins.
by lastmanstanding inthings are moving right along.
“israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.
this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.
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Is Watchtower letting Ukrainian draftees flap in the wind without legal assistance?
by Balaamsass2 inis this like the situation in mexico vs malawi ray franz wrote about in his book "crisis of conscience:?
why leave any mention of professed neutrality out of their government filings?
may 18, 2025, 10:29 a.m.. court in odesa region rules that jehovah's witnesses' charter does not prohibit them from fighting.
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Anony Mous
There are many issues:
The JWorg does not have standing in these countries to defend their own members. For purposes of tax and government funding they have chosen to have their religion represented by a local independent chapter, which for purposes of government benefits they wanted to register.
Registration with the state and state funding however comes with the requirement you do not oppose the state’s existence such as stating you would not fight for the “hand that feeds” was strategically left out. In Europe, where there is no freedom of religion, it is a privilege the state can deny. JW foolishly thought there would never be another European war before “the end”, their leadership wanted the money.
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The Governing Body is Restructuring the Org.and encouranging young ones to REACH OUT!
by liam inthe governing body just doesn't let up on encouraging the young children to reach out to do free labor for the organization.
so another generation of young people with ruined lives.
another generation of young people that will get old and wake up in their 50s to realize they were in a religious doomsday cult.. and they are getting rid of some old workers that ran the branches of the organization, and giving them different assignments or maybe they are just sending them home, who knows.
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Anony Mous
I’ve heard similar stories. The special pioneer thing is just a stipend much like CO but less. A local congregation is supposed to pay for your housing and most other costs, the stipend was about $100/month back in the day for special pioneer, $300 for retired COs and maybe $500-1000 for COs depending on the area and whether they had a sponsoring congregation, if there was a sponsor that would be reduced.
Note you had to pay gas, clothes, food, rent etc from that, so really special pioneer despite considered full time had to get at least a part time job. COs could submit travel from congregation to home as an expense, but no more.
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NOT on JW.org Jehovah's Witness Doctor refuses Blood Transfusion for dying non-JW patientPregnant woman passes away mid-operation as Jehovah’s Witness doctor refuses blood transfusion
by Balaamsass2 in5/10/25 this story from nigeria is a twist.
the doctor is the jw!.
pregnant woman passes away mid-operation as jehovah’s witness doctor refuses blood transfusion.
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Anony Mous
Doctors train for all sorts of events. Power goes out in Western hospitals as well, all the time actually. Yes, they have generators but that takes seconds to minutes to kick in.
No license - how do you square that with your JW belief, your conscience was good with accepting money on false pretenses but not with giving blood to a “worldly person”?
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Is Belief in Jesus Enough to be Saved? Or Does it Include Believing Jesus?
by Sea Breeze ini don't think it is possible to believe in jesus and then not believe what he said.
the purpose of the watchtower organization is to take as many people to hell as possible.
they do this by tricking people into rejecting the bare minimum requirements for the free gift of salvation that jesus offered to ”whosoever”.. one of the stipulations for salvation is belief that jesus was raised from the dead:.
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Anony Mous
@Rattigan: it is only a paradox if you do not believe in things like an immortal soul. Judaism, and by extent, Christianity are faiths that have developed over literally 4-5000 years, likely longer, you can’t just redirect a core tenet in a single argument in a single thought from a single person over the past roughly 100 years. It’s all connected and has been refined so far, it is ‘true’ in the sense that everything around the faith, around our culture, our laws etc are imbued with the ‘fact’ that we have an immortal soul, disconnected from the body.
And yes, I’m not saying this is a scientific fact, I’m just saying this is a fact in how we organize our lives. If we did not believe as such, laws around life and death in general (murder, manslaughter, probate, abortion, euthanasia, suicide …) would look vastly different, Europe and Canada is going a very slight way into rejection of those tenets and as a result are ‘cheapening’ death in their laws, they promote euthanasia and abortion as collective cost savings, as a result murder becomes less punishable (on average ~10 years in jail with recent cases having gone as low as 2), probate law has become much less about individual families but more about societal benefits.
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Zechariah 12:10 Corruption in the NWT
by Sea Breeze inhere's a question for those who still support watchtower on this forum.
why did watchtower leave out the word "me" in zech.
zechariah 12:10 reads like this: .
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Anony Mous
@Rattigan, so that would imply Jesus = Jehovah (God). Because John the baptizer is commonly accepted to be the preparation for Jesus. The Bible does specify "the Messiah" (Daniel 9, Isaiah) or "my son" (Psalm 2:7) in other places.
"Yahweh Our Righteousness," or "Jehovah Tsidkenu" (יהוה צדקנו), is a name of God that appears in Jeremiah 23:6 which is commonly interpreted to mean Jesus.
You can see the split in thoughts between the "Messiah = God" and "Messiah = son of God" in early writings and still to date, various Jewish groups do not share the same opinion, because you either have to accept the divinity of a Messiah (multiple gods) or a duality/trinity in a single God-person as most Christians and some Muslims groups do.
This idea is older than the Christian faith, it is a 'problem' in any monotheistic group to be able to attribute properties such as a mediator between god and man. Polytheistic religions solve this issue with multiple gods and demi-gods being the interlocutor.
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Is Belief in Jesus Enough to be Saved? Or Does it Include Believing Jesus?
by Sea Breeze ini don't think it is possible to believe in jesus and then not believe what he said.
the purpose of the watchtower organization is to take as many people to hell as possible.
they do this by tricking people into rejecting the bare minimum requirements for the free gift of salvation that jesus offered to ”whosoever”.. one of the stipulations for salvation is belief that jesus was raised from the dead:.
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Anony Mous
If you believe salvation is only offered to those that follow a certain set of tenets, then you are no better than the WTBTS.
Even Jesus taught salvation is based on good works, repentance and devotion, the Pauline doctrine of salvation through faith is just one way of doing the things Jesus asked (care for the widows and orphans, …)
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Former Jehovah's Witness sentenced for child sexual assault
by blondie in6/3/2025 former jehovah's witness sentenced for child sexual assault shaun sheffer, 47, of harmony was found guilty in january of three counts each of rape and indecent assault, including assault of a person less than 13 who had a mental disability.
he also was convicted of corruption of minors.... https://triblive.com/local/regional/former-jehovahs-witness-sentenced-for-child-sexual-assault/ .
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Anony Mous
Seems like a monthly occurrence now to have one or two of these articles...
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Guess who's coming to dinner.. Elder and nosey wife!
by Witness 007 inso my wife ran into a elder i new 10 years ago and invites him to dinner!!!!!
he arives and gives me a bear hug...love bombing!
he started talking about armegedon is really very very close.
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Anony Mous
@blondie: nobody "carried away" the Jews. DNA evidence is quite clear, people with what we call Jewish origin have lived there for thousands of years in what the Romans called "Syria-Palestina". There is also an Arab and Christian population which has genetic roots. They are also called "Israelis" because they live in Israel and they ALSO have been displaced from Gaza and the West Bank for safety reasons.
The Romans themselves didn't keep the area until 1948. The so-called modern day Palestinians are genetically Jordanians, Egyptians and others from around that area in North Africa, they invaded in the early 20th century. Gaza and the West Bank was a concession to those people. Lebanon was a majority Christian country until the early 20th century, Syria was Alawite (Shia) Muslim and Druze, both countries have seen major populations of said religious groups moved into Israel, displaced from their own home countries since the late 19th century by surges of Sunni Muslims from modern day Iran, Egypt and Jordan (the latter two pushed out and massacred the "Palestinian" population because of integration issues). The Gazans/Palestinians are the ONLY group in the area that has not integrated into Israel. The Druze, Christians and Alawites all integrate perfectly fine in Israel.
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Putin was almost killed.
by liam inif you have been seeing the world news, you probably aware that zelensky launch a drown attack on putin and almost killed him.
putin lost it and hit ukraine with the largest drone and missile attack of war so far, killing not only soldiers by many civilians.
even trump has said putin has changed.
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Anony Mous
Funny to hear all these people complain about Trump when it was Biden that started the war and did literally nothing about it, didn't even get either of them to the table.
The US has been quietly pushing on Putin to come to the table, they have been 3 years without any true aid from the US, so Ukraine was losing, Trump comes by and now they are firebombing Putin's sleeping quarters? Trump gave him an ultimatum now, read between the lines, when he says you've got 2 weeks, like Iran with Suleiman, this is just a shot across the bow.
Putin knows where this is coming from, we just can't say it out loud, because if Trump said it, Putin would have to be 'strong' and respond but Putin admitting they can't fight against a Ukraine-US ally is also a problem. Ukraine signed onto the rare earths deal, this is their 'reward'. It's not all that hard to understand these dynamics.
Putin has signed onto the Western media's depiction of Trump as weak and internally focused, then they are flabbergasted when the US flexes their muscle. You see the same in Gaza, Biden kept things stringing along for over a year with hundreds of hostages in play, now Israel got the go-ahead from Trump, Hamas is running away, Gazans are rebelling against Hamas, there is pandemonium with the Houthi rebels too, years of attacking the Red Sea shipping under Biden, a few weeks after Trump nobody is talking about it anymore, their entire piracy infrastructure has quite literally sunk.